GTC 8-4

[Darklight]

------ GTC ------

Pack 1 pick 1:
Smite
Slaughterhorn
Swamp (FOIL)
Naturalize
Armored Transport
Totally Lost
Boros Guildgate
Assault Griffin
Shambleshark
Shattering Blow
Rust Scarab
--> Gift of Orzhova
Holy Mantle
Ooze Flux
Swamp

Pack 1 pick 2:
Contaminated Ground
Scorchwalker
--> Daring Skyjek
Gruul Guildgate
Wildwood Rebirth
Foundry Street Denizen
Corpse Blockade
Armored Transport
Deathcult Rogue
Pit Fight
Homing Lightning
Orzhov Keyrune
Tower Defense
Plains

Pack 1 pick 3:
Dutiful Thrull
Predator's Rapport
Nav Squad Commandos
Sage's Row Denizen
Razortip Whip
Madcap Skills
Death's Approach
Shambleshark
Shattering Blow
--> Urbis Protector
Skullcrack
Biovisionary
Forest

Pack 1 pick 4:
Scatter Arc
Structural Collapse
--> Angelic Edict
Spell Rupture
Slate Street Ruffian
Ember Beast
Gruul Guildgate
Wildwood Rebirth
Shattering Blow
Viashino Shanktail
Sylvan Primordial
Plains

Pack 1 pick 5:
Shadow Alley Denizen
Scab-Clan Charger
Leyline Phantom
--> Foundry Street Denizen
Corpse Blockade
Armored Transport
Burst of Strength
Mortus Strider
Merfolk of the Depths
Crackling Perimeter
Island

Pack 1 pick 6:
Tin Street Market
Cloudfin Raptor
Aerial Maneuver
Spire Tracer
Dimir Guildgate
Prophetic Prism
Midnight Recovery
Primal Visitation
--> Deathcult Rogue
Plains

Pack 1 pick 7:
Scatter Arc
Structural Collapse
Skygames
Burst of Strength
Prophetic Prism
--> Orzhov Guildgate
Primal Visitation
Ripscale Predator
Plains

Pack 1 pick 8:
Shadow Slice
Guildscorn Ward
Furious Resistance
Riot Gear
Ivy Lane Denizen
--> Executioner's Swing
Bioshift
Island

Pack 1 pick 9:
Swamp (FOIL)
Naturalize
--> Armored Transport
Boros Guildgate
Shattering Blow
Rust Scarab
Swamp

Pack 1 pick 10:
Contaminated Ground
--> Scorchwalker
Gruul Guildgate
Foundry Street Denizen
Tower Defense
Plains

Pack 1 pick 11:
Predator's Rapport
Razortip Whip
Shattering Blow
--> Skullcrack
Forest

Pack 1 pick 12:
Structural Collapse
Wildwood Rebirth
--> Shattering Blow
Plains

Pack 1 pick 13:
--> Mortus Strider
Crackling Perimeter
Island

Pack 1 pick 14:
--> Tin Street Market
Plains

Pack 1 pick 15:
--> Plains

------ GTC ------

Pack 2 pick 1:
Shadow Slice
Warmind Infantry
Scatter Arc
Foundry Street Denizen
Zarichi Tiger
Boros Guildgate
Skygames
Corpse Blockade
Martial Glory
Shambleshark
Skarrg Guildmage
Mark for Death
--> Knight of Obligation
Clan Defiance
Island

Pack 2 pick 2:
Frilled Oculus
Shadow Slice
Slaughterhorn
Naturalize
Armored Transport
Totally Lost
Boros Guildgate
Assault Griffin
Paranoid Delusions
Truefire Paladin
Mental Vapors
Tower Defense
--> Nightveil Specter
Island

Pack 2 pick 3:
Aerial Maneuver
Madcap Skills (FOIL)
Disciple of the Old Ways
Gruul Guildgate
--> Court Street Denizen
Naturalize
Armored Transport
Totally Lost
Skyknight Legionnaire
Paranoid Delusions
Murder Investigation
Hindervines
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 4:
Leyline Phantom
Shadow Alley Denizen
Orzhov Guildgate
Adaptive Snapjaw
--> Bomber Corps
Midnight Recovery
Last Thoughts
Psychic Strike
Shattering Blow
Miming Slime
Cinder Elemental
Plains

Pack 2 pick 5:
Gutter Skulk
Scab-Clan Charger
Syndicate Enforcer
Burst of Strength
Basilica Guards
Spell Rupture
--> Wojek Halberdiers
Hydroform
Illness in the Ranks
Hold the Gates
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 6:
Dutiful Thrull
Towering Thunderfist
Adaptive Snapjaw
Syndicate Enforcer
Simic Guildgate
--> Basilica Guards
Skygames (FOIL)
Gateway Shade
Whispering Madness
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 7:
Structural Collapse
Gruul Guildgate
Wildwood Rebirth
--> Foundry Street Denizen
Corpse Blockade
Ruination Wurm
Paranoid Delusions
Thespian's Stage
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 8:
Contaminated Ground
Scorchwalker
Skyblinder Staff
Last Thoughts
--> Court Street Denizen
Frenzied Tilling
Ripscale Predator
Plains

Pack 2 pick 9:
Scatter Arc
Foundry Street Denizen
Boros Guildgate
Skygames
--> Martial Glory
Mark for Death
Island

Pack 2 pick 10:
Shadow Slice
Naturalize
--> Armored Transport
Mental Vapors
Tower Defense
Island

Pack 2 pick 11:
Naturalize
--> Totally Lost
Murder Investigation
Hindervines
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 12:
--> Shadow Alley Denizen
Last Thoughts
Shattering Blow
Plains

Pack 2 pick 13:
--> Hydroform
Illness in the Ranks
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 14:
--> Skygames (FOIL)
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 15:
--> Swamp

------ GTC ------

Pack 3 pick 1:
Knight Watch
Gutter Skulk
Disciple of the Old Ways
Bomber Corps
Midnight Recovery
Last Thoughts
Dimir Guildgate
Naturalize
Hydroform
High Priest of Penance (FOIL)
Dimir Charm
Mindeye Drake
--> Guardian of the Gateless
Rubblehulk
Forest

Pack 3 pick 2:
Dutiful Thrull
Towering Thunderfist
Basilica Screecher
Syndicate Enforcer
Burst of Strength
Basilica Guards
Spell Rupture
Simic Guildgate
--> Wojek Halberdiers
Mortus Strider
Merfolk of the Depths
Debtor's Pulpit
Hellraiser Goblin
Swamp

Pack 3 pick 3:
Massive Raid
Angelic Edict
Boros Guildgate
Assault Griffin
Adaptive Snapjaw
Skinbrand Goblin
Syndicate Enforcer
Zhur-Taa Swine
Mugging
Gruul Keyrune
--> Arrows of Justice
Immortal Servitude
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 4:
Gutter Skulk
Daring Skyjek
Adaptive Snapjaw
Skinbrand Goblin
Syndicate Enforcer
Simic Guildgate
Pit Fight
Dimir Keyrune
Mental Vapors
--> Firefist Striker
Skarrg Goliath
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 5:
Shadow Alley Denizen
Totally Lost
--> Assault Griffin
Skyblinder Staff
Skinbrand Goblin
Last Thoughts
Kingpin's Pet
Hydroform
Vizkopa Guildmage
Gateway Shade
Island

Pack 3 pick 6:
Aerial Maneuver
Basilica Guards
Simic Guildgate
Zarichi Tiger
Bomber Corps
Primal Visitation
--> Wojek Halberdiers
Gruul Charm
Dying Wish
Swamp

Pack 3 pick 7:
Predator's Rapport
Scorchwalker
--> Foundry Street Denizen
Zarichi Tiger
Skygames
Corpse Blockade
Psychic Strike
Bioshift
Forest

Pack 3 pick 8:
--> Massive Raid
Knight Watch
Contaminated Ground
Way of the Thief
Horror of the Dim
Shielded Passage
Mortus Strider
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 9:
--> Knight Watch
Midnight Recovery
Last Thoughts
Dimir Guildgate
Naturalize
Hydroform
Forest

Pack 3 pick 10:
Dutiful Thrull
--> Towering Thunderfist
Burst of Strength
Mortus Strider
Merfolk of the Depths
Swamp

Pack 3 pick 11:
Massive Raid
Boros Guildgate
--> Assault Griffin
Immortal Servitude
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 12:
Gutter Skulk
--> Syndicate Enforcer
Mental Vapors
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 13:
--> Skyblinder Staff
Hydroform
Island

Pack 3 pick 14:
--> Dying Wish
Swamp

Pack 3 pick 15:
--> Forest

Получилась вроде бы неплохая дечка, но пожрал в первом же туре.



Видимо, у меня какие-то проблемы с пониманием формата. Нужны советы и комментарии по пикам, что и где не так. Комментарии типа "нуб, иди в тетрис играй" прошу оставить при себе.

[sonniy]

Я посмотрел только начало, но не понял вот чего: почему мы передаем премиумный ремувал и берем над ним среднее существо? Хотим остаться в цвете? Не обязательно же женится на первом пике.

[kremen]

1.6 взял бы прокачку

 

Не понял 2.1, почему бы не раровый ремумал взять? Ну да ладно, но вот 2.2 не понял вообще, паладин же одна из лучших карт в боросах.

 

3.3 подумал бы над маггингом

Изменено 11 марта 2013 пользователем kremen

[Darklight]

Не понял 2.1, почему бы не раровый ремумал взять?

 

Хотел гарантированно посадить игрока справа в зеленый.

 

С паладином ошибся очень сильно, да.

[Pope Amole]

1.2 так, в принципе, можно, т.к. мы еще не знаем, боросы или оржовы, а первый пик и туда, и туда годится.

 

1.3 я бы, наверное, после пропущенного лайтнинга взял аппроч и пошел в оржов, но так тоже можно.

 

1.5 на самом деле, ошибка здесь - в первых бустерах отдали адское количество красного, а теперь пытаемся форсить борос. я бы взял безопасный транспорт - держит наши опции открытыми.

 

1.9 я бы гейт взял.

 

2.1 но тут определенно дефаянс и играть в борос со сплэшем на зеленый. бомба же адская. откровенно говоря, дальше драфт можно не смотреть.

 

2.2 паладин, раз уж дают - какой спектер, куда уже?

 

2.3 скайжек - в оржовах денизен ни о чем.

 

2.7 тут-то должен был быть гейт под дефаянс.

 

2.8 волкер - нужно для себя четко определиться, красные денизены или белые. и те, и другие в одной колоде работать не будут.

 

 

 

В общем, проблема тут в недержании - надо было определиться, оржов тут или борос, а собирать пытались и то, и другое. Слишком долго пытались, из-за чего и вышла плохая колода.

[Darklight]

Спасибо, приму к сведению.

[Darklight]

Собственно, сыграл еще 1 драфт, на этот раз 2-1, но тут надавали раров в цвет. Вопрос все тот же - что не так?

Pack 1 pick 1:

--> Warmind Infantry

Scatter Arc

Smite

Madcap Skills

Ivy Lane Denizen

Guildscorn Ward

Clinging Anemones

Millennial Gargoyle

Executioner's Swing

Paranoid Delusions

Ground Assault

?therize

Cinder Elemental

Mystic Genesis

Mountain

 

Pack 1 pick 2:

Basilica Screecher

--> Grisly Spectacle (FOIL)

Massive Raid

Riot Gear

Forced Adaptation

Keymaster Rogue

Horror of the Dim

Guildscorn Ward

Shattering Blow

Deathcult Rogue

Ordruun Veteran

Experiment One

Simic Fluxmage

Plains

 

Pack 1 pick 3:

Daring Skyjek

Frilled Oculus

Shadow Slice

Dimir Guildgate

Naturalize

Spell Rupture

Slate Street Ruffian

Ember Beast

Hydroform

Cinder Elemental

Hold the Gates

--> Spark Trooper

Mountain

 

Pack 1 pick 4:

Aerial Maneuver

Spire Tracer

Skygames

Slate Street Ruffian

Orzhov Guildgate

Adaptive Snapjaw

--> Bomber Corps

Bioshift

Boros Keyrune

Righteous Charge

Glaring Spotlight

Swamp

 

Pack 1 pick 5:

Predator's Rapport

Contaminated Ground

Scorchwalker

Primal Visitation (FOIL)

Act of Treason

Forced Adaptation

Paranoid Delusions

--> Wojek Halberdiers

Mark for Death

Illness in the Ranks

Swamp

 

Pack 1 pick 6:

Shadow Alley Denizen

--> Scab-Clan Charger

Clinging Anemones

Horror of the Dim

Shielded Passage

Razortip Whip

Furious Resistance

Bioshift

Smog Elemental

Mountain

 

Pack 1 pick 7:

Scab-Clan Charger

Leyline Phantom

--> Aerial Maneuver

Zarichi Tiger

Skygames

Burst of Strength

Purge the Profane

Hold the Gates

Forest

 

Pack 1 pick 8:

Towering Thunderfist

Shielded Passage

--> Act of Treason

Riot Gear

Verdant Haven

Primal Visitation

Simic Keyrune

Island

 

Pack 1 pick 9:

Scatter Arc

Guildscorn Ward

Clinging Anemones

Millennial Gargoyle

Paranoid Delusions

--> Cinder Elemental

Mountain

 

Pack 1 pick 10:

--> Riot Gear

Forced Adaptation

Horror of the Dim

Guildscorn Ward

Shattering Blow

Plains

 

Pack 1 pick 11:

Naturalize

Slate Street Ruffian

Hydroform

--> Hold the Gates

Mountain

 

Pack 1 pick 12:

Skygames

Bioshift

--> Boros Keyrune

Swamp

 

Pack 1 pick 13:

--> Predator's Rapport

Contaminated Ground

Swamp

 

Pack 1 pick 14:

Razortip Whip

--> Bioshift

 

Pack 1 pick 15:

--> Forest

 

------ GTC ------

 

Pack 2 pick 1:

Knight Watch

Contaminated Ground

Greenside Watcher

Way of the Thief

Tin Street Market

Madcap Skills

Ivy Lane Denizen

Guildscorn Ward

Drakewing Krasis

Purge the Profane

Merfolk of the Depths

--> Sunhome Guildmage

Experiment One

Lazav, Dimir Mastermind

Island

 

Pack 2 pick 2:

Predator's Rapport

Contaminated Ground

Madcap Skills

Death's Approach

Balustrade Spy

Guildscorn Ward

Furious Resistance

Ruination Wurm

Shattering Blow

Orzhov Keyrune

Killing Glare

Smog Elemental

--> Wrecking Ogre

Swamp

 

Pack 2 pick 3:

Scorchwalker

--> Daring Skyjek

Corpse Blockade

Armored Transport

Syndicate Enforcer

Burst of Strength

Basilica Guards

Mortus Strider

Nimbus Swimmer

Frenzied Tilling

Mark for Death

Treasury Thrull

Mountain

 

Pack 2 pick 4:

Hands of Binding

--> Massive Raid

Sage's Row Denizen

Skyblinder Staff

Nav Squad Commandos

Verdant Haven

Horror of the Dim

Pit Fight

Psychic Strike

Hindervines

Gridlock

Plains

 

Pack 2 pick 5:

Swamp (FOIL)

--> Warmind Infantry

Naturalize

Armored Transport

Totally Lost

Mortus Strider

Ruination Wurm

Orzhov Keyrune

Gruul Charm

Serene Remembrance

Mountain

 

Pack 2 pick 6:

Massive Raid

Keymaster Rogue

Death's Approach

Millennial Gargoyle

Verdant Haven

Sage's Row Denizen

Paranoid Delusions

Killing Glare

--> Urbis Protector

Plains

 

Pack 2 pick 7:

Structural Collapse

Shadow Alley Denizen

Act of Treason

Balustrade Spy

Shielded Passage

--> Grisly Spectacle

Murder Investigation

Molten Primordial

Mountain

 

Pack 2 pick 8:

Dutiful Thrull

--> Towering Thunderfist

Nav Squad Commandos

Razortip Whip

Death's Approach

Primal Visitation

Gateway Shade

Forest

 

Pack 2 pick 9:

Contaminated Ground

Way of the Thief

Tin Street Market

Guildscorn Ward

Merfolk of the Depths

--> Lazav, Dimir Mastermind

Island

 

Pack 2 pick 10:

Predator's Rapport

Contaminated Ground

Guildscorn Ward

--> Furious Resistance

Shattering Blow

Swamp

 

Pack 2 pick 11:

Corpse Blockade

Syndicate Enforcer

Frenzied Tilling

--> Mark for Death

Mountain

 

Pack 2 pick 12:

--> Skyblinder Staff

Horror of the Dim

Psychic Strike

Plains

 

Pack 2 pick 13:

--> Swamp (FOIL)

Mortus Strider

Mountain

 

Pack 2 pick 14:

Paranoid Delusions

--> Plains

 

Pack 2 pick 15:

--> Mountain

 

------ GTC ------

 

Pack 3 pick 1:

Angelic Edict

Devour Flesh

Predator's Rapport

Scorchwalker

Plains (FOIL)

Midnight Recovery

--> Foundry Street Denizen

Zarichi Tiger

Drakewing Krasis

Pit Fight

Dimir Charm

Frenzied Tilling

Alpha Authority

Signal the Clans

Island

 

Pack 3 pick 2:

Disciple of the Old Ways

Scatter Arc

Wildwood Rebirth

Dimir Guildgate

Prophetic Prism

Midnight Recovery

--> Foundry Street Denizen

Bioshift

Zhur-Taa Swine

Dimir Charm

Merfolk of the Depths

Tower Defense

Realmwright

Swamp

 

Pack 3 pick 3:

Predator's Rapport

Scorchwalker

Leyline Phantom

Skinbrand Goblin

Last Thoughts

Gruul Guildgate

Court Street Denizen

Bioshift

Wojek Halberdiers

Homing Lightning

Dying Wish

--> Foundry Champion

Swamp

 

Pack 3 pick 4:

Warmind Infantry

Scatter Arc

Smite

Orzhov Guildgate

Bomber Corps

Midnight Recovery

Last Thoughts

--> Mugging

Gruul Keyrune

Vizkopa Guildmage

Firefist Striker

Forest

 

Pack 3 pick 5:

Shadow Slice

Dutiful Thrull

Riot Gear

Ivy Lane Denizen

Clinging Anemones

Horror of the Dim

Shielded Passage

Primal Visitation

--> Burning-Tree Emissary

Voidwalk

Forest

 

Pack 3 pick 6:

Aerial Maneuver

Spire Tracer

Shadow Slice

Nav Squad Commandos

--> Madcap Skills

Balustrade Spy

Paranoid Delusions

Holy Mantle

Mental Vapors

Mountain

 

Pack 3 pick 7:

Shadow Alley Denizen

Boros Guildgate

Skygames

Corpse Blockade

Skyknight Legionnaire

Beckon Apparition

Mental Vapors

--> Spark Trooper

Swamp

 

Pack 3 pick 8:

--> Massive Raid

Last Thoughts

Psychic Strike (FOIL)

Naturalize

Spell Rupture

Pit Fight

Illness in the Ranks

Forest

 

Pack 3 pick 9:

Predator's Rapport

--> Scorchwalker

Plains (FOIL)

Midnight Recovery

Frenzied Tilling

Signal the Clans

Island

 

Pack 3 pick 10:

Scatter Arc

Wildwood Rebirth

Bioshift

Merfolk of the Depths

--> Tower Defense

Swamp

 

Pack 3 pick 11:

Predator's Rapport

--> Skinbrand Goblin

Bioshift

Dying Wish

Swamp

 

Pack 3 pick 12:

--> Warmind Infantry

Midnight Recovery

Last Thoughts

Forest

 

Pack 3 pick 13:

Shielded Passage

--> Primal Visitation

Forest

 

Pack 3 pick 14:

--> Mental Vapors

Mountain

 

Pack 3 pick 15:

--> Swamp

 

[Serg121]

3-1 Pit Fight мне кажется более полезным.

[Darklight]

3-1 Pit Fight мне кажется более полезным.

 

Ничего не делает в боросах.

[Pope Amole]

Ничего не делает в боросах.

 

Особенно в сочетании со Spark Trooper.

[Darklight]

Особенно в сочетании со Spark Trooper.

 

6 маны

[Pope Amole]

6 маны

 

И? Тут третьим пиком поверх скиллзов ангелица за 6 маны берется - и ничего.

[Snake]

Pit Fight в боросов не очень. Пробовал играть сам - карта всетаки для Грулов. А Spark Trooper врятли будет сидеть у нас на руке и ждать 6 ман.