DmitryOlenin

Вась, ну привыкни ты уже разжёвывать для меня Впрочем, думаю, что не только для меня. Конкретнее пиши пожалуйста и более развёрнуто, если можно Ну там по пикам пройдись, скажи что не так взял и почему. Что имеешь в виду под "полной отстойностью курвы". Мне казалось, что 3-5-5-5-4-1 - это не самая ужасная курва из тех, что бывают. Расскажи, какая она должна быть? P.S. Я никогда не спрашивал "как играть врасом", благо как и ты далеко не первый год в эту игру играю. Я говорил о том, что по моим ощущениям, в этом формате врас довольно легко читается, потому менее крут.

И опять GW. И опять Turntimber Ranger выступает соло Посплитил. Event #: 677971Time: 11/9/2009 8:58:53 PM Players: UME jennifer_rubin achilles_heel Anssi A Kyshantry --> dolenin Otty666 Zombieinvasion ------ ZEN ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Vampire Lacerator Soaring Seacliff Shieldmate's Blessing Spire Barrage Slaughter Cry Baloth Cage Trap Cancel Devout Lightcaster Magma Rift --> Windborne Charge Quest for the Gemblades Zendikar Farguide Territorial Baloth Bog Tatters Mountain Pack 1 pick 2: Kor Cartographer Graypelt Refuge Island Kazandu Blademaster Harrow Adventuring Gear Highland Berserker --> Journey to Nowhere Piranha Marsh Sky Ruin Drake Welkin Tern Molten Ravager (FOIL) Grazing Gladehart Elemental Appeal Pack 1 pick 3: Joraga Bard Forest Sunspring Expedition Highland Berserker Akoum Refuge --> Turntimber Ranger Shoal Serpent Runeflare Trap Grim Discovery Geyser Glider Disfigure Slaughter Cry Reckless Scholar Pack 1 pick 4: Hedron Scrabbler Blood Seeker Goblin Bushwhacker Kor Duelist Ondu Cleric --> Baloth Cage Trap Reckless Scholar Hagra Crocodile Vastwood Gorger Island Mold Shambler Kabira Crossroads Pack 1 pick 5: Shatterskull Giant Oran-Rief Recluse Hagra Crocodile --> Kor Hookmaster Swamp Stonework Puma Feast of Blood Savage Silhouette Teetering Peaks Heartstabber Mosquito Arrow Volley Trap Pack 1 pick 6: Mire Blight Tempest Owl Hedron Scrabbler Grappling Hook --> Frontier Guide Zektar Shrine Expedition Merfolk Wayfinder Slaughter Cry Vampire Lacerator Scythe Tiger Pack 1 pick 7: Reckless Scholar Mark of Mutiny Ondu Cleric Explorer's Scope --> Nissa's Chosen Goblin War Paint Teetering Peaks Plains Vastwood Gorger Pack 1 pick 8: Arrow Volley Trap Into the Roil --> Primal Bellow Unstable Footing Whiplash Trap Piranha Marsh Mountain Ior Ruin Expedition Pack 1 pick 9: Soaring Seacliff Shieldmate's Blessing Cancel Zendikar Farguide --> Territorial Baloth Bog Tatters Mountain Pack 1 pick 10: Graypelt Refuge Island --> Harrow Piranha Marsh Sky Ruin Drake Molten Ravager (FOIL) Pack 1 pick 11: Sunspring Expedition Shoal Serpent Runeflare Trap Grim Discovery --> Slaughter Cry Pack 1 pick 12: Hedron Scrabbler --> Reckless Scholar Island Kabira Crossroads Pack 1 pick 13: Oran-Rief Recluse Swamp --> Arrow Volley Trap Pack 1 pick 14: Tempest Owl --> Scythe Tiger Pack 1 pick 15: --> Plains ------ ZEN ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Steppe Lynx Shatterskull Giant Umara Raptor --> Journey to Nowhere Needlebite Trap Kazandu Refuge Savage Silhouette Cosi's Trickster Windrider Eel Cobra Trap Giant Scorpion Spire Barrage Mountain Oran-Rief Survivalist Vines of Vastwood Pack 2 pick 2: Demolish --> Kor Cartographer Torch Slinger Umara Raptor Geyser Glider Primal Bellow Molten Ravager Grim Discovery Cancel Hagra Diabolist Noble Vestige Blade of the Bloodchief Blood Seeker (FOIL) Forest Pack 2 pick 3: Kor Skyfisher Plains Kabira Crossroads Tanglesap Greenweaver Druid Mold Shambler Makindi Shieldmate Inferno Trap Caravan Hurda Highland Berserker Kraken Hatchling Whiplash Trap --> World Queller Pack 2 pick 4: Forest Kor Cartographer Cliff Threader Windrider Eel Savage Silhouette Akoum Refuge Geyser Glider Oran-Rief Recluse Runeflare Trap --> Adventuring Gear Plated Geopede Electropotence Pack 2 pick 5: Vampire Lacerator Needlebite Trap Bold Defense Frontier Guide Swamp Sky Ruin Drake --> Vines of Vastwood Pillarfield Ox Tuktuk Grunts Ior Ruin Expedition Shatterskull Giant Pack 2 pick 6: Territorial Baloth Spreading Seas --> Kor Aeronaut Caravan Hurda Guul Draz Vampire Swamp Kor Sanctifiers Seismic Shudder Hedron Crab Expedition Map Pack 2 pick 7: Quest for the Holy Relic Forest Shieldmate's Blessing Magma Rift Khalni Heart Expedition Cancel Mire Blight Zendikar Farguide --> Kor Hookmaster Pack 2 pick 8: Shieldmate's Blessing Trapfinder's Trick Nimbus Wings Landbind Ritual Mountain Runeflare Trap Paralyzing Grasp --> Khalni Heart Expedition Pack 2 pick 9: Shatterskull Giant Kazandu Refuge Savage Silhouette Cosi's Trickster Cobra Trap Mountain --> Vines of Vastwood Pack 2 pick 10: Demolish --> Primal Bellow Grim Discovery Cancel Noble Vestige Forest Pack 2 pick 11: Plains Kabira Crossroads Tanglesap Caravan Hurda --> Kraken Hatchling Pack 2 pick 12: Forest --> Kor Cartographer Savage Silhouette Runeflare Trap Pack 2 pick 13: --> Bold Defense Swamp Ior Ruin Expedition Pack 2 pick 14: --> Caravan Hurda Swamp Pack 2 pick 15: --> Mire Blight ------ ZEN ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Spidersilk Net Tanglesap Swamp Goblin War Paint Kor Sanctifiers Lethargy Trap Guul Draz Vampire --> Emeria Angel Heartstabber Mosquito Oran-Rief Survivalist Tajuru Archer Spreading Seas Murasa Pyromancer Makindi Shieldmate Carnage Altar Pack 3 pick 2: Disfigure Bala Ged Thief Soul Stair Expedition Joraga Bard Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Molten Ravager Punishing Fire Sejiri Refuge Timbermaw Larva Mountain --> Turntimber Basilisk Explorer's Scope Tempest Owl Pack 3 pick 3: Kor Outfitter Spidersilk Net Blood Tribute Demolish Bog Tatters Relic Crush --> Windborne Charge Spell Pierce Plains Greenweaver Druid Turntimber Basilisk Welkin Tern Vampire's Bite Pack 3 pick 4: Kabira Crossroads Hagra Diabolist Cliff Threader Ravenous Trap Surrakar Marauder Windrider Eel Swamp Mold Shambler Kor Cartographer Hagra Crocodile Oran-Rief Recluse --> Felidar Sovereign Pack 3 pick 5: Soaring Seacliff Vampire's Bite Harrow Demolish Forest Heartstabber Mosquito Relic Crush --> Kor Sanctifiers Zendikar Farguide Bog Tatters Quest for Pure Flame Pack 3 pick 6: Cancel Noble Vestige --> Cliff Threader Piranha Marsh Forest Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Goblin Ruinblaster Joraga Bard Paralyzing Grasp Pack 3 pick 7: Carnage Altar --> Mold Shambler Merfolk Wayfinder Desecrated Earth Narrow Escape Quest for the Holy Relic Turntimber Grove Island Whiplash Trap Pack 3 pick 8: Beast Hunt --> Oran-Rief Recluse (FOIL) Swamp Scythe Tiger Whiplash Trap Vastwood Gorger Trapfinder's Trick Quest for Ancient Secrets Pack 3 pick 9: Spidersilk Net Tanglesap Swamp Lethargy Trap Spreading Seas --> Makindi Shieldmate Carnage Altar Pack 3 pick 10: Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Sejiri Refuge --> Timbermaw Larva Mountain Tempest Owl Pack 3 pick 11: Spidersilk Net Demolish Spell Pierce Plains --> Vampire's Bite Pack 3 pick 12: Kabira Crossroads --> Cliff Threader Ravenous Trap Swamp Pack 3 pick 13: Demolish Forest --> Relic Crush Pack 3 pick 14: Noble Vestige --> Forest Pack 3 pick 15: --> Desecrated Earth Итоговая колода В колоду было 33 карты. В итоге не стал играть ловушкой, зато 2 раза её сайдил.

Cleric Миша, и не думай спорить Сам понимаешь, общественное мнение - строгая штука kendzu Лёш, какую земельку и почему не люблю?

Слушайте, а проблема именно в обсуждении кто кому что даёт? Это же обычно и не обсуждается. -Давай сплит. -Давай. -Сдаёшься? -Давай ты. Всё. Это весь разговор. Где тут нелегальность? Вроде как предложить поделить призы ты имеешь право. Предложить сдаться тоже. Как, собственно, и сдаться. Нельзя обсуждать материальную компенсацию за это, то есть решать исход матча не игровыми методами. Ну так её почти никогда никто и не обсуждает. Или тут что-то я упустил?

Зачем? Труба у меня с кучей существ отлично комбится. Хотя, конечно, раздачи типа: "труба-геопеда-эквип, вторая геопеда и поскакали" я видел только у оппонентов. Играть им не буду точно. А эту сайдил в матче, где видел 5 кажется карт красного бёрна. А я ранодушен к василиску. Мне геар нравится много больше. Не был уверен, что будут давать оба цвета. Хотя вероятнее всего ты прав, надо было спокойно брать карту в цвет. Возможно, не знаю. Очень уж нравится спелл.

Ну да, все вроде сплитят и потом решают, кто паки даёт. А как это делать так, чтобы не могло быть потом проблем?

Фойловый ангел намекал, что надо его брать. Ренджера отдал налево, но от второго отказаться не смог. Посплитил. Event #: 676041Time: 11/9/2009 4:01:57 AM Players: Scouseboy pernicious d Boin mogwai20 --> dolenin SoftSeventeen reyf CReactor ------ ZEN ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Turntimber Ranger Kraken Hatchling Explorer's Scope Sky Ruin Drake Goblin War Paint Caravan Hurda --> Emeria Angel (FOIL) Vines of Vastwood Burst Lightning Brave the Elements Disfigure Swamp Pillarfield Ox Kor Aeronaut Blazing Torch Pack 1 pick 2: Punishing Fire Disfigure Swamp Paralyzing Grasp Spreading Seas Hagra Diabolist Caravan Hurda Timbermaw Larva Nissa's Chosen Bladetusk Boar Explorer's Scope Guul Draz Vampire Unstable Footing --> Turntimber Ranger Pack 1 pick 3: Sky Ruin Drake Spell Pierce --> Adventuring Gear Greenweaver Druid Quest for Pure Flame Plains Noble Vestige Nimbus Wings Mindless Null Magma Rift Turntimber Basilisk Highland Berserker Relic Crush Pack 1 pick 4: Blade of the Bloodchief Swamp Zektar Shrine Expedition Noble Vestige Mindless Null Expedition Map Tempest Owl --> Surrakar Marauder Scythe Tiger Hedron Crab Hedron Scrabbler Quest for the Gemblades Pack 1 pick 5: Savage Silhouette Reckless Scholar Makindi Shieldmate Caller of Gales --> Giant Scorpion Blood Seeker Turntimber Basilisk Needlebite Trap Cliff Threader Mountain Desecrated Earth Pack 1 pick 6: Whiplash Trap Hedron Crab Landbind Ritual Nimbus Wings Zektar Shrine Expedition Kabira Crossroads Plains --> Khalni Heart Expedition Trapfinder's Trick Zendikar Farguide Pack 1 pick 7: Turntimber Grove Akoum Refuge --> Territorial Baloth Plains (FOIL) Seismic Shudder Archmage Ascension Mountain Guul Draz Vampire Narrow Escape Pack 1 pick 8: Desecrated Earth Cobra Trap Turntimber Grove Primal Bellow Mountain Quest for Ancient Secrets --> Territorial Baloth Caller of Gales Pack 1 pick 9: Kraken Hatchling Explorer's Scope Goblin War Paint Caravan Hurda --> Vines of Vastwood Swamp Pillarfield Ox Pack 1 pick 10: Swamp Spreading Seas Caravan Hurda --> Timbermaw Larva Guul Draz Vampire Unstable Footing Pack 1 pick 11: Spell Pierce Quest for Pure Flame Plains Mindless Null --> Relic Crush Pack 1 pick 12: Swamp Tempest Owl Scythe Tiger --> Quest for the Gemblades Pack 1 pick 13: --> Savage Silhouette Mountain Desecrated Earth Pack 1 pick 14: --> Plains Trapfinder's Trick ------ ZEN ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Oran-Rief Survivalist Frontier Guide Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle Slaughter Cry Kor Outfitter Baloth Cage Trap Island Kor Hookmaster Vampire Lacerator Trapfinder's Trick --> Windborne Charge (FOIL) Vampire's Bite Scythe Tiger Unstable Footing Beast Hunt Pack 2 pick 2: Beast Hunt Shieldmate's Blessing Island Slaughter Cry --> River Boa Mind Sludge Cancel Harrow Vampire Lacerator Tuktuk Grunts Ior Ruin Expedition Bog Tatters Bloodghast Zendikar Farguide Pack 2 pick 3: Forest Kor Cartographer Torch Slinger Harrow Trailblazer's Boots Cliff Threader Piranha Marsh Gatekeeper of Malakir Timbermaw Larva Bladetusk Boar Vampire Lacerator Geyser Glider --> Grazing Gladehart Pack 2 pick 4: Ravenous Trap Cancel Tuktuk Grunts Bog Tatters --> Kor Hookmaster Oran-Rief Recluse Shieldmate's Blessing (FOIL) Sejiri Refuge Shieldmate's Blessing Mountain Beast Hunt Zendikar Farguide Pack 2 pick 5: Cancel Bog Tatters Magosi, the Waterveil Scythe Tiger Unstable Footing Cobra Trap Spidersilk Net Slaughter Cry --> Kor Outfitter Swamp Beast Hunt Pack 2 pick 6: Ruinous Minotaur Sadistic Sacrament Tanglesap Guul Draz Vampire Goblin War Paint Kor Duelist Makindi Shieldmate --> Graypelt Refuge Pillarfield Ox Forest Pack 2 pick 7: Runeflare Trap Reckless Scholar Hagra Diabolist Greenweaver Druid Forest Vastwood Gorger Spidersilk Net --> Explorer's Scope Ruinous Minotaur Pack 2 pick 8: Kabira Crossroads Reckless Scholar Savage Silhouette Heartstabber Mosquito --> Frontier Guide Kor Cartographer Forest Tajuru Archer Pack 2 pick 9: --> Frontier Guide Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle Slaughter Cry Island Trapfinder's Trick Scythe Tiger Beast Hunt Pack 2 pick 10: Beast Hunt Shieldmate's Blessing Island Cancel Ior Ruin Expedition --> Zendikar Farguide Pack 2 pick 11: Forest Kor Cartographer --> Harrow Trailblazer's Boots Timbermaw Larva Pack 2 pick 12: --> Shieldmate's Blessing (FOIL) Shieldmate's Blessing Mountain Beast Hunt Pack 2 pick 13: Scythe Tiger --> Cobra Trap Beast Hunt Pack 2 pick 14: Tanglesap --> Pillarfield Ox Pack 2 pick 15: --> Runeflare Trap ------ ZEN ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Caller of Gales --> Oran-Rief Recluse Punishing Fire Narrow Escape Hellfire Mongrel Umara Raptor Needlebite Trap Surrakar Marauder Goblin Bushwhacker Desecrated Earth Lethargy Trap Nissa's Chosen Torch Slinger Summoning Trap Mountain Pack 3 pick 2: Soul Stair Expedition --> Journey to Nowhere Khalni Heart Expedition Quest for Pure Flame Savage Silhouette Hagra Crocodile Molten Ravager Shatterskull Giant Murasa Pyromancer Shieldmate's Blessing Shoal Serpent Quest for the Gemblades Windrider Eel Swamp Pack 3 pick 3: Oran-Rief Recluse Spreading Seas Trapmaker's Snare Seismic Shudder Nissa's Chosen Mountain Goblin Ruinblaster Surrakar Marauder Vampire Hexmage Goblin Shortcutter --> Scute Mob Spidersilk Net Caravan Hurda Pack 3 pick 4: Mind Sludge Tuktuk Grunts Kraken Hatchling Ondu Cleric Narrow Escape Forest Expedition Map Blood Seeker Nissa's Chosen Goblin War Paint Khalni Gem --> Harrow Pack 3 pick 5: Ior Ruin Expedition Stonework Puma Vampire Lacerator Hideous End Bold Defense Shatterskull Giant Plains Into the Roil Territorial Baloth --> Grazing Gladehart Seascape Aerialist Pack 3 pick 6: Beast Hunt Quest for the Gemblades Grim Discovery --> Vines of Vastwood Tajuru Archer Quest for Pure Flame Swamp Soul Stair Expedition Shieldmate's Blessing Shoal Serpent Pack 3 pick 7: Savage Silhouette Kazandu Refuge Caravan Hurda Kraken Hatchling --> Cliff Threader Reckless Scholar Tanglesap Swamp Giant Scorpion Pack 3 pick 8: Molten Ravager Grim Discovery Plains --> Shieldmate's Blessing Shoal Serpent Khalni Gem Beast Hunt Seascape Aerialist Pack 3 pick 9: Caller of Gales Narrow Escape Needlebite Trap --> Surrakar Marauder Desecrated Earth Lethargy Trap Mountain Pack 3 pick 10: Soul Stair Expedition Quest for Pure Flame Savage Silhouette --> Shoal Serpent Quest for the Gemblades Swamp Pack 3 pick 11: Spreading Seas Trapmaker's Snare Mountain Spidersilk Net --> Caravan Hurda Pack 3 pick 12: --> Narrow Escape Forest Expedition Map Goblin War Paint Pack 3 pick 13: --> Ior Ruin Expedition Plains Seascape Aerialist Pack 3 pick 14: Beast Hunt --> Swamp Pack 3 pick 15: --> Tanglesap Итоговая колода

Не хотел писать в отвлечённую тему... Тем более, что это напрямую к 8-4 относится. Насколько безопасно писать в приват сопернику по финалу фразу типа: Do you want to split? Я просто слышал ужасы про баны аккаунтов и т.д. Есть на этот счёт достоверная информация?

Вот собрал небольшое уг :-) Сыграл 2-1. Есть несколько филлеров, ничего не смог в финале сделать с быстрыми кошками/союзниками GW. Где люди такие карты видят - я не знаю. 2 кошки, куча эллаев, мачете... До свидания. Event #: 675754Time: 11/9/2009 2:08:14 AM Players: Intellectx snoogms SandyTimar --> dolenin ytb BlueMage22x hmz zinzinnat ------ ZEN ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Grim Discovery Living Tsunami Slaughter Cry Harrow Island Joraga Bard --> Sphinx of Lost Truths Mind Sludge Kazandu Blademaster Kor Cartographer Torch Slinger Vampire Lacerator Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition Shoal Serpent Pack 1 pick 2: Disfigure Timbermaw Larva Mountain Tanglesap Paralyzing Grasp Summoner's Bane Hellfire Mongrel Goblin Shortcutter Caller of Gales Kazandu Blademaster --> Gigantiform Explorer's Scope Blood Seeker Pillarfield Ox Pack 1 pick 3: Joraga Bard Grim Discovery Swamp Expedition Map --> Welkin Tern Merfolk Wayfinder Unstable Footing Shoal Serpent Spire Barrage Kor Outfitter Oran-Rief Survivalist Sunspring Expedition Spell Pierce Pack 1 pick 4: Hagra Diabolist Seismic Shudder Turntimber Grove Harrow Caravan Hurda Trailblazer's Boots Guul Draz Vampire Geyser Glider Tuktuk Grunts --> Kraken Hatchling Spreading Seas Forest Pack 1 pick 5: Steppe Lynx Tanglesap Blood Seeker Goblin War Paint Spire Barrage Sadistic Sacrament Goblin Bushwhacker Plains Guul Draz Vampire --> Seascape Aerialist Lethargy Trap Pack 1 pick 6: Kabira Crossroads Vastwood Gorger Spidersilk Net Island Teetering Peaks Ravenous Trap Crypt Ripper --> Geyser Glider Kor Outfitter (FOIL) Hagra Crocodile Pack 1 pick 7: Explorer's Scope Soaring Seacliff Ruinous Minotaur Bold Defense Plains Kor Duelist Vastwood Gorger --> Harrow Jwar Isle Refuge Pack 1 pick 8: Seismic Shudder Swamp Ondu Cleric Savage Silhouette --> Vines of Vastwood Spreading Seas Hedron Scrabbler Kazandu Refuge Pack 1 pick 9: Grim Discovery --> Harrow Island Joraga Bard Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition Shoal Serpent Pack 1 pick 10: --> Timbermaw Larva Mountain Tanglesap Goblin Shortcutter Caller of Gales Pillarfield Ox Pack 1 pick 11: --> Joraga Bard Swamp Expedition Map Shoal Serpent Spell Pierce Pack 1 pick 12: --> Turntimber Grove Caravan Hurda Trailblazer's Boots Forest Pack 1 pick 13: --> Goblin War Paint Sadistic Sacrament Plains Pack 1 pick 14: --> Island Ravenous Trap Pack 1 pick 15: --> Plains ------ ZEN ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Scythe Tiger Vampire Hexmage Joraga Bard Journey to Nowhere Highland Berserker Sky Ruin Drake Plains Zektar Shrine Expedition Grazing Gladehart Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition Slaughter Cry --> Roil Elemental Graypelt Refuge Merfolk Seastalkers Pack 2 pick 2: Kor Skyfisher Plains Mindless Null Seascape Aerialist Whiplash Trap --> Mold Shambler Demolish Joraga Bard Mindbreak Trap Noble Vestige Kor Aeronaut Grim Discovery Cancel Disfigure Pack 2 pick 3: Shoal Serpent Hedron Crab Quest for the Gemblades --> Punishing Fire Khalni Heart Expedition Swamp Trapfinder's Trick Nimbus Wings Spire Barrage Mountain (FOIL) Spidersilk Net Soul Stair Expedition Ior Ruin Expedition Pack 2 pick 4: Forest Hedron Scrabbler Khalni Gem Seismic Shudder Nissa's Chosen Oran-Rief Recluse Kor Cartographer Spreading Seas Ravenous Trap Ondu Cleric --> Scute Mob Goblin Bushwhacker Pack 2 pick 5: Kraken Hatchling Forest Turntimber Grove Bold Defense Explorer's Scope Piranha Marsh Ruinous Minotaur Desecrated Earth --> Timbermaw Larva Seismic Shudder Into the Roil Pack 2 pick 6: Slaughter Cry Archmage Ascension Grim Discovery Joraga Bard Shoal Serpent Mountain Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition --> Goblin Ruinblaster Expedition Map Pack 2 pick 7: Swamp Zektar Shrine Expedition Noble Vestige Scythe Tiger Unstable Footing Mindless Null --> Whiplash Trap Tempest Owl Hedron Scrabbler Pack 2 pick 8: --> Mind Sludge Kor Cartographer Spreading Seas Quest for the Holy Relic Bloodchief Ascension Forest Spidersilk Net Lethargy Trap Pack 2 pick 9: Scythe Tiger Joraga Bard Plains --> Zektar Shrine Expedition Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition Slaughter Cry Pack 2 pick 10: Plains --> Seascape Aerialist Demolish Noble Vestige Grim Discovery Cancel Pack 2 pick 11: --> Shoal Serpent Swamp Trapfinder's Trick Nimbus Wings Mountain (FOIL) Pack 2 pick 12: Forest --> Seismic Shudder Spreading Seas Ravenous Trap Pack 2 pick 13: Forest Desecrated Earth --> Seismic Shudder Pack 2 pick 14: --> Mountain Sunspring Expedition Pack 2 pick 15: --> Scythe Tiger ------ ZEN ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Savage Silhouette Nissa's Chosen Narrow Escape Stonework Puma Quest for the Gravelord Goblin War Paint Swamp Hagra Crocodile Caller of Gales Murasa Pyromancer Teetering Peaks Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle --> Windrider Eel Shatterskull Giant Runeflare Trap Pack 3 pick 2: Steppe Lynx --> Nissa's Chosen Tuktuk Grunts Narrow Escape Vampire Hexmage Caravan Hurda Goblin War Paint Oran-Rief, the Vastwood Plains Crypt Ripper Caller of Gales Graypelt Refuge Merfolk Seastalkers Desecrated Earth Pack 3 pick 3: Pillarfield Ox Joraga Bard Paralyzing Grasp Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Landbind Ritual Primal Bellow --> Vines of Vastwood Baloth Cage Trap Electropotence Mountain Cancel Noble Vestige Pack 3 pick 4: Relic Crush Vampire's Bite Mountain --> Oran-Rief Survivalist Turntimber Basilisk Magma Rift Blade of the Bloodchief Spell Pierce Trapfinder's Trick Feast of Blood Nimbus Wings Spidersilk Net Pack 3 pick 5: Blood Tribute Bold Defense Summoner's Bane Vines of Vastwood Shatterskull Giant Jwar Isle Refuge Into the Roil Kor Hookmaster Nimana Sell-Sword --> Welkin Tern Island Pack 3 pick 6: Quest for Ancient Secrets Into the Roil Mark of Mutiny Primal Bellow Mountain Piranha Marsh Goblin War Paint --> Timbermaw Larva Lethargy Trap Tanglesap Pack 3 pick 7: Caravan Hurda Feast of Blood (FOIL) Guul Draz Vampire Goblin Ruinblaster Turntimber Grove Island Tajuru Archer --> Nissa's Chosen Frontier Guide Pack 3 pick 8: Tanglesap Goblin Bushwhacker Akoum Refuge Grappling Hook Mountain Goblin War Paint Guul Draz Vampire --> Cobra Trap Pack 3 pick 9: Savage Silhouette Narrow Escape Goblin War Paint Swamp Caller of Gales --> Teetering Peaks Runeflare Trap Pack 3 pick 10: Narrow Escape --> Oran-Rief, the Vastwood Plains Caller of Gales Graypelt Refuge Desecrated Earth Pack 3 pick 11: --> Joraga Bard Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Mountain Noble Vestige Pack 3 pick 12: Mountain Trapfinder's Trick --> Nimbus Wings Spidersilk Net Pack 3 pick 13: --> Bold Defense Jwar Isle Refuge Island Pack 3 pick 14: Mountain --> Piranha Marsh Pack 3 pick 15: --> Island Итоговая колода

Так я и старался подобрать мелочи. Тот же треп таки взял на круге и т.д. Но кол-во существ удручало весь драфт :(

Да я уже неоднократно задавал этот вопрос тут. Сам им играл пару раз в силедах. То ничего не делал, то игру выигрывал за 1 атаку. Кто-то писал, что поломий едва ли не в любой деке, решил попробовать взять. А, вот, нашёл:

Выкладываю драфт после первого тура. Просто не могу срочно не поделиться тем, что я увидел на протяжении первых 15 пиков. Победил меня во втором туре Mono-R. Вот объясните, как могут быть столь... скромны на существа все 8 бустеров? Точнее в 1м кажется что-то было, а остальные - хоть стой, хоть падай. Посчитал сейчас для интереса: 3 белые кричи, 2 чёрные, 2 красные, 3 синие и 2 зелёные. Event #: 675490Time: 11/9/2009 12:27:11 AM Players: hГјtti Aziridine lincolnfrog --> dolenin Sowers Candeva YSoSerious mtg2italy ------ ZEN ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Tempest Owl Torch Slinger Ravenous Trap Umara Raptor Kazandu Blademaster --> Eldrazi Monument Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Vampire Lacerator Summoner's Bane Forest Steppe Lynx Cancel Noble Vestige Joraga Bard Pack 1 pick 2: Trapfinder's Trick Khalni Heart Expedition Quest for Pure Flame --> Reckless Scholar Teetering Peaks Quest for the Gemblades Vastwood Gorger Soul Stair Expedition Island Shieldmate's Blessing Shoal Serpent Khalni Gem Kabira Crossroads Molten Ravager Pack 1 pick 3: Expedition Map Mark of Mutiny Lethargy Trap Goblin Shortcutter Goblin Bushwhacker Akoum Refuge Bloodchief Ascension Forest --> Beastmaster Ascension (FOIL) Ondu Cleric Kor Sanctifiers Tanglesap Spire Barrage Pack 1 pick 4: Vampire's Bite Sky Ruin Drake Pillarfield Ox Relic Crush Windborne Charge Spell Pierce Runeflare Trap --> Vines of Vastwood Swamp Nimbus Wings Magma Rift Mindless Null Pack 1 pick 5: Trapfinder's Trick Explorer's Scope Vampire's Bite Trapmaker's Snare --> Magma Rift Scythe Tiger Nimbus Wings Pillarfield Ox Relic Crush Gomazoa Mountain Pack 1 pick 6: --> Tajuru Archer Swamp Trapfinder's Trick Zendikar Farguide Kabira Crossroads Hagra Crocodile Nimbus Wings Unstable Footing Shieldmate's Blessing Soul Stair Expedition Pack 1 pick 7: Narrow Escape Quest for Ancient Secrets Goblin Shortcutter Spreading Seas Heartstabber Mosquito Forest --> Tajuru Archer Seismic Shudder Blood Seeker Pack 1 pick 8: Bold Defense Heartstabber Mosquito --> Stonework Puma Feast of Blood Spidersilk Net Akoum Refuge Into the Roil Island Pack 1 pick 9: Tempest Owl Ravenous Trap Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Forest --> Cancel Noble Vestige Pack 1 pick 10: Trapfinder's Trick Quest for Pure Flame Island --> Shieldmate's Blessing Shoal Serpent Kabira Crossroads Pack 1 pick 11: Expedition Map --> Mark of Mutiny Lethargy Trap Forest Tanglesap Pack 1 pick 12: Spell Pierce Runeflare Trap --> Swamp Mindless Null Pack 1 pick 13: Trapfinder's Trick Trapmaker's Snare --> Mountain Pack 1 pick 14: --> Swamp Trapfinder's Trick Pack 1 pick 15: --> Forest ------ ZEN ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Explorer's Scope Lavaball Trap Timbermaw Larva Into the Roil Bold Defense Turntimber Basilisk Spire Barrage Ior Ruin Expedition Kor Sanctifiers Ruinous Minotaur Hideous End Hedron Crab --> Punishing Fire Plains Harrow Pack 2 pick 2: Expedition Map Trapfinder's Trick Blazing Torch Blade of the Bloodchief Bog Tatters Mountain Slaughter Cry Kor Outfitter --> Baloth Cage Trap Tuktuk Grunts Harrow Trailblazer's Boots Beast Hunt Scythe Tiger Pack 2 pick 3: Soaring Seacliff Vampire's Bite Relic Crush Vampire Lacerator Demolish Mountain Spire Barrage Hellfire Mongrel Murasa Pyromancer --> Territorial Baloth Bog Tatters Spell Pierce Zektar Shrine Expedition Pack 2 pick 4: Soaring Seacliff Shieldmate's Blessing Forest --> Harrow Runeflare Trap Bog Tatters Mark of Mutiny Cancel Beast Hunt Slaughter Cry Kor Outfitter Kor Sanctifiers Pack 2 pick 5: Ruinous Minotaur Kor Cartographer Vampire Hexmage Island Vastwood Gorger Spidersilk Net --> Harrow Teetering Peaks Reckless Scholar Graypelt Refuge Carnage Altar Pack 2 pick 6: Caller of Gales Mark of Mutiny Goblin War Paint Caravan Hurda Forest --> Timbermaw Larva Seismic Shudder Bladetusk Boar Explorer's Scope Kazandu Refuge Pack 2 pick 7: Swamp Khalni Heart Expedition Ravenous Trap Shieldmate's Blessing Savage Silhouette Magma Rift Cancel Mire Blight --> Zendikar Farguide Pack 2 pick 8: Goblin War Paint Caller of Gales Carnage Altar Island Spidersilk Net Hagra Diabolist --> Ior Ruin Expedition Ondu Cleric Pack 2 pick 9: Explorer's Scope Lavaball Trap --> Timbermaw Larva Bold Defense Ior Ruin Expedition Ruinous Minotaur Plains Pack 2 pick 10: --> Expedition Map Trapfinder's Trick Mountain Trailblazer's Boots Beast Hunt Scythe Tiger Pack 2 pick 11: Relic Crush Demolish Mountain Spell Pierce --> Zektar Shrine Expedition Pack 2 pick 12: --> Shieldmate's Blessing Forest Runeflare Trap Beast Hunt Pack 2 pick 13: Island Spidersilk Net --> Carnage Altar Pack 2 pick 14: Caller of Gales --> Forest Pack 2 pick 15: --> Swamp ------ ZEN ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Tempest Owl --> Oran-Rief Survivalist Archmage Ascension Tuktuk Grunts Kor Sanctifiers Crypt Ripper Landbind Ritual Primal Bellow Mire Blight Hedron Scrabbler Mountain Scythe Tiger Noble Vestige Merfolk Wayfinder Zektar Shrine Expedition Pack 3 pick 2: Into the Roil Kor Hookmaster Swamp Quest for the Holy Relic Vines of Vastwood Tuktuk Grunts Beastmaster Ascension Oran-Rief Recluse --> Punishing Fire Sky Ruin Drake Cobra Trap Bold Defense Heartstabber Mosquito Nimana Sell-Sword Pack 3 pick 3: Bladetusk Boar Needlebite Trap Needlebite Trap (FOIL) --> River Boa Paralyzing Grasp Plains Blazing Torch Spreading Seas Piranha Marsh Sky Ruin Drake Goblin Shortcutter Narrow Escape Cliff Threader Pack 3 pick 4: Reckless Scholar Kabira Crossroads Molten Ravager Goblin War Paint (FOIL) Arrow Volley Trap Soul Stair Expedition Unstable Footing Plains --> Frontier Guide Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Tempest Owl Pack 3 pick 5: Territorial Baloth --> Mold Shambler Whiplash Trap Teetering Peaks Brave the Elements Crypt Ripper Blood Tribute Soaring Seacliff Island Stonework Puma Quest for the Gravelord Pack 3 pick 6: Makindi Shieldmate Caller of Gales Trapmaker's Snare --> Turntimber Grove Emeria, the Sky Ruin Brave the Elements Plains Desecrated Earth Ior Ruin Expedition Kraken Hatchling Pack 3 pick 7: --> Stonework Puma Pillarfield Ox Turntimber Grove Cosi's Trickster Desecrated Earth Narrow Escape Khalni Gem Plains Plains (FOIL) Pack 3 pick 8: Tempest Owl Kazandu Refuge Hedron Scrabbler Noble Vestige Spell Pierce --> Zektar Shrine Expedition Mindless Null Forest Pack 3 pick 9: Tempest Owl --> Archmage Ascension Landbind Ritual Mire Blight Mountain Noble Vestige Merfolk Wayfinder Pack 3 pick 10: Swamp Quest for the Holy Relic Vines of Vastwood Sky Ruin Drake --> Cobra Trap Nimana Sell-Sword Pack 3 pick 11: --> Paralyzing Grasp Plains Spreading Seas Piranha Marsh Narrow Escape Pack 3 pick 12: Plains Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition --> Tempest Owl Pack 3 pick 13: Brave the Elements --> Soaring Seacliff Island Pack 3 pick 14: Trapmaker's Snare --> Plains Pack 3 pick 15: --> Plains Итоговая колода

Блин, Вася... А в другой? Или ты к тому, что в деке с миллионами ремувала необязательно играть в 15 существ?

Класс, а чего на форуме нет сего достойного мужа? )

Вась, ты во сколько существ играть предпочитаешь? Тоже около 15, да?

Потому мы никому ничего не скажем и будем сидеть и хихикать...

Вась, спасибо, что попиково описал. Однако я вижу 2 критичных места (из того, то ты описал): Раптор и эквип в 3.8. Тогда непонятно замечание: Везде - это аж в 2х местах? Насчёт 1.1. Ну тут я не знаю... Может ты и прав. Однако про белую ловушку за полный кост забывать тоже не стоит. Всяких там 3/2 интимидейт и 2/1 интимидейт разрушает очень неплохо. А мы пока летаем... P.S. А баунс в деках с эвейжном обычно работает почти как ремувал. Ибо часто получается, что бегаем на встречных курсах, друг другу не мешаем, кто быстрее бегает, тот и молодец.

О... Вася, ты можешь по пикам что-нибудь сказать? Кажется твою моног никто какахоколодой не назвал, хотя и можно было. Впрочем, ты и не посплитился. Зачем давать оценку колоде, если можно указать на неправильные пики? Всем полезно и интересно будет услышать твоё мнение.

Ну эта... Спасибо, но я в курсе насчёт зависимости от качества Однако ещё один человек в копилку 15+ существ, да

Да, про Windborne Charge ты писал едва ли не в первом моём эвенте по этому сету, как сейчас помню И я вполне с тобой был согласен и тогда и сейчас. А где именно крутой врас? В каких колодах оппонент не понимает, что у нас врас на руке и наваливает на 2-3-4 кричи больше, чем с нашей стороны?

В общем, Вася, ты очень смелый, как мы выяснили

Только Вася написал про UW... Посплитил. Event #: 672209Time: 11/8/2009 12:03:02 AM Players: Pugg Fuggly kake gwh --> dolenin jimmax30 Dimchik SwarRM volkan ------ ZEN ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Seismic Shudder Nissa's Chosen Jwar Isle Refuge Magosi, the Waterveil Kabira Crossroads Vastwood Gorger Cancel (FOIL) Forest Guul Draz Vampire Mold Shambler Spreading Seas --> Arrow Volley Trap Tajuru Archer Reckless Scholar Hagra Crocodile Pack 1 pick 2: Sky Ruin Drake Shoal Serpent Demolish Kor Duelist Mountain Baloth Cage Trap Highland Berserker Beast Hunt Molten Ravager Grim Discovery Cancel Grazing Gladehart --> Journey to Nowhere Murasa Pyromancer Pack 1 pick 3: Desecrated Earth Mind Sludge Narrow Escape Plated Geopede --> Living Tsunami Goblin Shortcutter Kor Duelist Plains Caller of Gales Welkin Tern Crypt Ripper Turntimber Grove Caravan Hurda Pack 1 pick 4: Vines of Vastwood Molten Ravager Grim Discovery --> Sky Ruin Drake Shieldmate's Blessing Shoal Serpent Plains Demolish Jwar Isle Refuge Pillarfield Ox Beast Hunt Summoning Trap Pack 1 pick 5: Surrakar Marauder Scythe Tiger Forest Noble Vestige Zektar Shrine Expedition Mindless Null --> Khalni Gem Expedition Map Tempest Owl Primal Bellow Hedron Scrabbler Pack 1 pick 6: --> Into the Roil Carnage Altar Timbermaw Larva Swamp (FOIL) Surrakar Marauder Unstable Footing Island Lavaball Trap Whiplash Trap Piranha Marsh Pack 1 pick 7: Nimana Sell-Sword Guul Draz Vampire Seascape Aerialist --> Adventuring Gear Tanglesap Forest Crypt of Agadeem Vastwood Gorger Spreading Seas Pack 1 pick 8: Mold Shambler Nissa's Chosen Greenweaver Druid --> Kraken Hatchling Goblin War Paint Carnage Altar Blade of the Bloodchief Forest Pack 1 pick 9: Seismic Shudder Nissa's Chosen --> Jwar Isle Refuge Magosi, the Waterveil Forest Spreading Seas Hagra Crocodile Pack 1 pick 10: Demolish Mountain Beast Hunt Molten Ravager Grim Discovery --> Cancel Pack 1 pick 11: Desecrated Earth Plains --> Crypt Ripper Turntimber Grove Caravan Hurda Pack 1 pick 12: --> Grim Discovery Plains Demolish Beast Hunt Pack 1 pick 13: Scythe Tiger --> Forest Mindless Null Pack 1 pick 14: --> Island Piranha Marsh ------ ZEN ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Vampire Hexmage Unstable Footing Seismic Shudder Nimana Sell-Sword Forest (FOIL) Vastwood Gorger Caravan Hurda Gomazoa Adventuring Gear Caller of Gales --> Kor Skyfisher Plains Whiplash Trap Goblin War Paint Terra Stomper Pack 2 pick 2: Ruinous Minotaur Bold Defense Into the Roil Piranha Marsh Vampire Lacerator Tajuru Archer Swamp Tuktuk Grunts Ior Ruin Expedition Timbermaw Larva Bloodghast Explorer's Scope --> Trusty Machete Sejiri Refuge Pack 2 pick 3: Mire Blight Hedron Scrabbler --> Kor Aeronaut Tempest Owl Slaughter Cry Zektar Shrine Expedition Runeflare Trap Oracle of Mul Daya Scythe Tiger Vampire Lacerator Oran-Rief Survivalist Mountain Umara Raptor Pack 2 pick 4: Timbermaw Larva Spidersilk Net Island Kor Sanctifiers Paralyzing Grasp Hagra Diabolist Hellfire Mongrel Explorer's Scope --> Welkin Tern Pillarfield Ox Hedron Crab (FOIL) Aether Figment Pack 2 pick 5: Hagra Diabolist Brave the Elements Island Giant Scorpion Slaughter Cry Shoal Serpent Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition Vines of Vastwood --> Pillarfield Ox Cosi's Trickster Pack 2 pick 6: Quest for the Gemblades --> Reckless Scholar Goblin Shortcutter Baloth Cage Trap Lethargy Trap Ondu Cleric Kabira Crossroads Tanglesap Akoum Refuge Swamp Pack 2 pick 7: Quest for Ancient Secrets Soaring Seacliff Vampire's Bite Scythe Tiger --> Savage Silhouette (FOIL) Trapfinder's Trick Mountain Ravenous Trap Beast Hunt Pack 2 pick 8: Landbind Ritual Forest Soul Stair Expedition Cobra Trap Archmage Ascension Soaring Seacliff --> Shieldmate's Blessing Trapfinder's Trick Pack 2 pick 9: Seismic Shudder Caravan Hurda Gomazoa Caller of Gales Plains --> Whiplash Trap Goblin War Paint Pack 2 pick 10: --> Into the Roil Piranha Marsh Tajuru Archer Swamp Ior Ruin Expedition Sejiri Refuge Pack 2 pick 11: Mire Blight --> Tempest Owl Runeflare Trap Scythe Tiger Mountain Pack 2 pick 12: Spidersilk Net Island --> Paralyzing Grasp Hagra Diabolist Pack 2 pick 13: Island Mire Blight --> Cosi's Trickster Pack 2 pick 14: Tanglesap --> Swamp Pack 2 pick 15: --> Mountain ------ ZEN ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Giant Scorpion --> Windrider Eel Goblin Ruinblaster Chandra Ablaze Kor Cartographer Torch Slinger Cliff Threader Island Spidersilk Net Harrow Savage Silhouette Adventuring Gear Quest for the Gravelord Hedron Crab Burst Lightning Pack 3 pick 2: Summoner's Bane Tempest Owl Mind Sludge Tuktuk Grunts Ior Ruin Expedition Mountain Khalni Heart Expedition Malakir Bloodwitch Molten Ravager --> Shepherd of the Lost Soul Stair Expedition Crypt Ripper Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Pack 3 pick 3: Disfigure Magma Rift Landbind Ritual Whiplash Trap Trapfinder's Trick Spell Pierce Vampire's Bite Mountain Mark of Mutiny --> Armament Master Relic Crush Nimbus Wings Gatekeeper of Malakir Pack 3 pick 4: Zektar Shrine Expedition Relic Crush Vampire's Bite Zendikar Farguide Cobra Trap Elemental Appeal Trapmaker's Snare Nimbus Wings Swamp --> Harrow Vampire Lacerator Trapfinder's Trick Pack 3 pick 5: Desecrated Earth --> Kor Aeronaut Spidersilk Net Island Goblin Bushwhacker Lethargy Trap Quest for Pure Flame Emeria, the Sky Ruin Tanglesap Ior Ruin Expedition Narrow Escape Pack 3 pick 6: Hellfire Mongrel Bog Tatters Trailblazer's Boots Demolish Vampire's Bite Relic Crush Mountain --> Into the Roil Shatterskull Giant Zektar Shrine Expedition Pack 3 pick 7: Runeflare Trap --> Reckless Scholar Giant Scorpion Kabira Crossroads Ior Ruin Expedition Swamp Feast of Blood Merfolk Wayfinder Crypt Ripper Pack 3 pick 8: Quest for the Holy Relic Beast Hunt --> Grazing Gladehart Swamp Piranha Marsh Noble Vestige Grim Discovery Demolish Pack 3 pick 9: Goblin Ruinblaster Cliff Threader Island Spidersilk Net Savage Silhouette --> Adventuring Gear Quest for the Gravelord Pack 3 pick 10: Tempest Owl --> Ior Ruin Expedition Mountain Soul Stair Expedition Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Pack 3 pick 11: Landbind Ritual Trapfinder's Trick Spell Pierce --> Vampire's Bite Mountain Pack 3 pick 12: --> Relic Crush Nimbus Wings Swamp Trapfinder's Trick Pack 3 pick 13: Island Quest for Pure Flame --> Tanglesap Pack 3 pick 14: --> Vampire's Bite Mountain Pack 3 pick 15: --> Swamp Итоговая колода 1.1 Сначала считал, что первый бустер пуст абсолютно. В итоге 2 игры выиграл чисто при помощи Arrow Volley Trap. Крутая карта? O_o 2.4 Верен ли был пик крачки над Aether Figment? Подумал, что крачка быстрее, не разочаровался. Reckless Scholar в этом формате мне не нравится. Так как обычно земли скидывать не хочется. Тут в деке было мало триггеров, потому даже один раз им подровался. А вообще не понял, сколь он крут. Одну игру выиграл так Adventuring Gear, Kor Skyfisher, Armament Master. И 3 атаки на 6. Не уверен в правильности пика 2.3. Kor Aeronaut над Umara Raptor. Двойной кост и подкидывать некого. Хотя в итоге получилось синергично с рарой, но в целом правильнее брать раптора, да? Каждую игру отсайживал Pillarfield Ox (ибо ничего не делает совсем) и клал синий трап. Хотя играть в 12 существ без ремувала было страшновато. Я обычно на 15 ориентируюсь, а вы?

Day of Judgment ни разу играть не пришлось. Что скажете об этой карте в формате? На силедах просто она слишком легко читалась, потому я перестал считать её крутым брокеном. Напрасно? На 1.6 вероятно стоило брать Vampire Hexmage. Решил подольше посидеть в цвете и взять карту, которая позволит сделать сплеш. Вот да, насчёт 2.1. Долго выбирал между Trusty Machete и Malakir Bloodwitch. Trusty Machete всё же предпочтительнее? Windborne Charge выиграл сам по себе мне несколько игр. Запредельная карта

Посплитил с Лёшей Петрыкиным. Event #: 672017Time: 11/7/2009 10:46:53 PM Players: riggers GALL x00dragon closetoa10 --> dolenin DjTiesto ulisses WEdidTHEmath ------ ZEN ------ Pack 1 pick 1: Cliff Threader Windborne Charge Gomazoa Forest Bladetusk Boar Sejiri Refuge Journey to Nowhere Tuktuk Grunts Ior Ruin Expedition --> Day of Judgment Grazing Gladehart Steppe Lynx Piranha Marsh Sky Ruin Drake Crypt Ripper Pack 1 pick 2: Spreading Seas Ondu Cleric Bladetusk Boar Whiplash Trap Piranha Marsh Into the Roil Hedron Scrabbler Summoner's Bane --> Kazandu Blademaster Kor Skyfisher Timbermaw Larva Seismic Shudder Quest for Pure Flame Swamp Pack 1 pick 3: --> Ondu Cleric Narrow Escape Forest Primal Bellow Nissa's Chosen Cobra Trap Kor Cartographer Torch Slinger Spreading Seas Harrow Blood Seeker Goblin Shortcutter Vampire Lacerator Pack 1 pick 4: Spreading Seas Lethargy Trap Quest for Pure Flame Ior Ruin Expedition Vampire Lacerator Guul Draz Vampire Goblin Bushwhacker Forest (FOIL) Swamp --> Kor Hookmaster Territorial Baloth Makindi Shieldmate Pack 1 pick 5: Unstable Footing (FOIL) Slaughter Cry Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition Joraga Bard Forest --> Kor Cartographer Needlebite Trap Shoal Serpent Grim Discovery Kazandu Refuge Pack 1 pick 6: Harrow Mire Blight Molten Ravager Vampire Hexmage --> Expedition Map Tempest Owl Ravenous Trap Crypt of Agadeem Plains Khalni Heart Expedition Pack 1 pick 7: --> Narrow Escape Piranha Marsh Goblin Shortcutter Timbermaw Larva Graypelt Refuge Carnage Altar Paralyzing Grasp Swamp Blood Seeker Pack 1 pick 8: Goblin Bushwhacker Unstable Footing --> Pillarfield Ox Timbermaw Larva Frontier Guide Swamp Explorer's Scope Spreading Seas Pack 1 pick 9: Gomazoa Forest --> Bladetusk Boar Sejiri Refuge Ior Ruin Expedition Grazing Gladehart Piranha Marsh Pack 1 pick 10: Spreading Seas Piranha Marsh --> Hedron Scrabbler Seismic Shudder Quest for Pure Flame Swamp Pack 1 pick 11: Forest Primal Bellow Cobra Trap Spreading Seas --> Blood Seeker Pack 1 pick 12: Spreading Seas --> Lethargy Trap Quest for Pure Flame Swamp Pack 1 pick 13: Mire Blight Sunspring Expedition --> Forest Pack 1 pick 14: Mire Blight --> Plains Pack 1 pick 15: --> Piranha Marsh ------ ZEN ------ Pack 2 pick 1: Bold Defense Graypelt Refuge Joraga Bard Vines of Vastwood Kor Duelist Sky Ruin Drake --> Malakir Bloodwitch Noble Vestige Soul Stair Expedition Plains Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Nimana Sell-Sword Tempest Owl Trusty Machete Pack 2 pick 2: Shatterskull Giant Zektar Shrine Expedition Island Brave the Elements Trapmaker's Snare Trapfinder's Trick Nimbus Wings Giant Scorpion --> Marsh Casualties Khalni Heart Expedition Archmage Ascension Windrider Eel Zendikar Farguide Vampire's Bite Pack 2 pick 3: Nimana Sell-Sword Scythe Tiger --> Vampire Hexmage Bog Tatters Ravenous Trap Vastwood Gorger Highland Berserker Beast Hunt Slaughter Cry Kor Outfitter Adventuring Gear Cancel Plains Pack 2 pick 4: Vastwood Gorger Noble Vestige Joraga Bard Sejiri Refuge Forest Highland Berserker --> Windborne Charge Demolish Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Cancel Baloth Cage Trap Pack 2 pick 5: Whiplash Trap Piranha Marsh Goblin Shortcutter Tanglesap Tajuru Archer Timbermaw Larva --> Into the Roil Caller of Gales Island Goblin Ruinblaster Trailblazer's Boots Pack 2 pick 6: --> Kor Cartographer Desecrated Earth Seismic Shudder Emeria, the Sky Ruin Kraken Hatchling Caravan Hurda Makindi Shieldmate Frontier Guide Swamp Turntimber Grove Pack 2 pick 7: Plains Greenweaver Druid --> Vampire's Bite Oran-Rief Recluse Runeflare Trap Beast Hunt Cosi's Trickster Slaughter Cry Trapfinder's Trick Pack 2 pick 8: Relic Crush Island Magosi, the Waterveil Trailblazer's Boots Trapfinder's Trick Oran-Rief Recluse Spell Pierce --> Vampire's Bite Pack 2 pick 9: --> Bold Defense Noble Vestige Soul Stair Expedition Plains Mindless Null Sunspring Expedition Tempest Owl Pack 2 pick 10: Island Trapmaker's Snare Trapfinder's Trick --> Nimbus Wings Archmage Ascension Zendikar Farguide Pack 2 pick 11: Scythe Tiger Ravenous Trap Beast Hunt --> Cancel Plains Pack 2 pick 12: Noble Vestige Demolish Sunspring Expedition --> Cancel Pack 2 pick 13: Piranha Marsh Caller of Gales --> Island Pack 2 pick 14: Seismic Shudder --> Swamp Pack 2 pick 15: --> Plains ------ ZEN ------ Pack 3 pick 1: Quest for the Gemblades Crypt Ripper Makindi Shieldmate Caller of Gales Soaring Seacliff Expedition Map Blood Seeker Lethargy Trap Quest for Pure Flame --> Vampire Nighthawk Mountain Goblin Shortcutter Terra Stomper Steppe Lynx Tanglesap Pack 3 pick 2: Burst Lightning Spell Pierce Runeflare Trap Bog Tatters --> Adventuring Gear Giant Scorpion Kor Outfitter Khalni Gem Windrider Eel Swamp Demolish Luminarch Ascension Cliff Threader Relic Crush Pack 3 pick 3: Goblin Bushwhacker Kraken Hatchling Hellfire Mongrel Grappling Hook Lethargy Trap Г†ther Figment Desecrated Earth Soaring Seacliff --> Heartstabber Mosquito Forest Makindi Shieldmate Plated Geopede Tanglesap Pack 3 pick 4: Goblin Shortcutter Stonework Puma Swamp Frontier Guide Pillarfield Ox Turntimber Grove Summoning Trap Caravan Hurda Vines of Vastwood Ruinous Minotaur --> Hideous End Guul Draz Vampire Pack 3 pick 5: Whiplash Trap Kabira Crossroads Living Tsunami --> Surrakar Marauder Umara Raptor Landbind Ritual Mold Shambler Expedition Map Reckless Scholar Mountain Highland Berserker Pack 3 pick 6: Plains Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle Ravenous Trap Joraga Bard Demolish Beast Hunt --> Grim Discovery Cancel Vastwood Gorger Noble Vestige Pack 3 pick 7: Caravan Hurda Ruinous Minotaur Needlebite Trap --> Guul Draz Vampire Pillarfield Ox Turntimber Grove Seismic Shudder Sejiri Refuge Mountain Pack 3 pick 8: Kraken Hatchling Mountain Savage Silhouette Desecrated Earth Landbind Ritual Kabira Crossroads --> Hagra Diabolist Caller of Gales Pack 3 pick 9: --> Makindi Shieldmate Caller of Gales Soaring Seacliff Lethargy Trap Quest for Pure Flame Mountain Tanglesap Pack 3 pick 10: Runeflare Trap Bog Tatters Swamp Demolish --> Cliff Threader Relic Crush Pack 3 pick 11: --> Kraken Hatchling Lethargy Trap Soaring Seacliff Forest Tanglesap Pack 3 pick 12: Swamp Turntimber Grove Caravan Hurda --> Ruinous Minotaur Pack 3 pick 13: --> Kabira Crossroads Landbind Ritual Mountain Pack 3 pick 14: --> Demolish Beast Hunt Pack 3 pick 15: --> Mountain Итоговая колода Много неочевидных пиков. Интересно ваше мнение.

Вы бы нас держали в курсе дел. Интересно же